[OK] Shui Fullsuit by Menagerie Works


General InformationGives some information about the item and the person writing the review.


About the Reviewer

Reviewer

Twitter: ShuiTheAquaria
Furaffinity: pyrethedragon

Relationship With Maker

The maker is NOT a friend

Prior Experience

I own one previous partial that came in shortly before Shui. Otherwise, no other experience.

Informed Maker of Issues

No
By the time Shui had been shown off and finished, and certain things that were asked of were not there, I had believed it to be a lost cause to try and get anything fixed, replaced. Especially as it likely would have cost extra

Wear Time

10+ Hours
About the Maker

Maker

Commission Information

Type: Fullsuit
Style: Digitigrade, Toony
Shipped From: USA

Species

Aquaria (Dragon)
Filed under Dracontine

Made in Year

Transaction Information

3000 USD paid in a lump sum
Filed under $3000 and over.

Estimated Completion Time (ETA) Accuracy

There was no ETA given


Date of Review

October 5, 2018

Buy/Commission Date
July 2017
Completion/Ship Date
Jan 2018
Item Completion Time (?)

Item Being Reviewed

Shui the Digi Fullsuit with digitigrade padding in a toony style as a commission.

Character Concept Art

Photos of Completed Product

HeadGives information about the head of the costume. If reviewing a set of ears, the answers would also go in this section.


Wear Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to wear with regard to comfort, fit, material quality, etc.

Are you satisfied with how it fits you?

Overall, the head fits a little loosely, but is not terrible to wear. The weight mostly leans forward, adding to the pre-existing, somewhat droopy muzzle.
However the lining is good, and keeps it comfortable while suiting and matches well with the use of a balaclava.

How is the ventilation?

I would say average at worst, since I do not have much experience with wearing other toony suits of similar nature. I can breathe relatively well in the suit, and it gets about as hot as expected for a fursuit

How is the vision?

Again, I’d say average for a toony style suit. Nothing out of the ordinary for a fursuit.

Appearance Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to look at with regard to material quality, design, how closely it matches the concept, etc.

This is where things get a little sketchy for me.
Menagerie works heads can often be hit or miss, and mine, unfortunately, was miss.
The head isn’t very symmetrical in shape. Everything on the head seems to tilt to one side, as is common in my past experience in viewing MenagerieWorks suits.
The horns, crest, and jaw all seem to tilt over to the right side. (The right you would have while wearing it.)
One eye also appears to be larger than the other.
In addition, the start of the fins in the back of her head seem to not be centered properly and feels to be lined with cardboard, or a similar hard material that does not hold it up as it should.
As well, there are bald spots on the ends of her whiskers that are very obvious and show the seams greatly. Black paint also seems to have rubbed off onto the whiskers due to them being so close to the mouth, where it was airbrushed with black paint.
The shaving is relatively even, but its possible it may have been shaved too much as the main seam in the middle of the face is very noticeable, even from a distance.
The expression however is good, happy and perky as requested. You can tell that Shui is one of the more friendly looking suits.

One major issue that was had, however, is that I multiple times requested Kemono style/glass eyes for the suit, of which are obviously not there in the final. This was discussed multiple times with the maker, and was said that it could be done, but no action was ever taken to put them in place.
In addition, as previously mentioned above, the snout drops down a fair amount, a common trait in Menagerie suits that I really wish was fixed.

Overall, much more Cons than Pros.

BodyGives information about the main body of the costume. If reviewing a separate set of pants/legs or torso, the answers would also go in this section.


Wear Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to wear with regard to comfort, fit, material quality, etc.

The body feels good to wear overall. Heavy on the legs, but that’s to be expected with any suit with large Digi padding.
The interior is, for the most part, nicely lined with black fabrication. On the other hand however, this has actually caused issues near the end of the legs, where it can often become near impossible for my feet to push through the fabric due to loose/puffy lining. My foot will often get caught and I will have to have my handler help even find it in the mess.

Airflow is fairly good for a Digi suit. While it of course does get sweaty in the legs rather quickly, I have no issue overheating so long as i take regular breaks.

Durability, in addition, has also proven me well so far. No ripped seams or anything of the sort yet, even in the armpits!

Appearance Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to look at with regard to material quality, design, how closely it matches the concept, etc.

There are a few quality issues with the body, such as the fact that the fins on the back are not stuffed in the slightest, leaving them to often droop over or just lie completely flat on the back in one direction.

The symmetry is actually very good compared to the head, no major issues that I can find in regards to it. Shaving is quite even as well.
The fur is also very soft, and very easy to brush. However one major issue that was made throughout the suit: the main fur color was made white instead of cream, which was never agreed to on my part when developing the suit.
However, the airbrushed spots are very well made and the correct colors.

And finally, there’s one fairly important problem. It was requested that there be a hole in the back of the suit for a belt to go through to wear the tail. However, this hole is absolutely massive. (Over the size of my fist) And I am often told that it can be seen from the back if the tail is not attached as tight as possible, which can be extremely embarrassing if anyone sees.

Special Attachments and Features Information about any special or unique features this piece has with regard to the reviewer's satisfaction of them.

Shui has fins along her back, as well as on her elbows and legs.
Neither of these seem to be stuffed very well, as they often droop or flop around mindlessly.

Hands and FeetGives information about the hands and/or feet of the costume.


Wear Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to wear with regard to comfort, fit, material quality, etc.

Hands
The hands are fairly comfortable to wear, despite not being lined. (Which I personally find to be an odd choice, as everything else wearable on the suit is lined.)

Originally I had ordered a five-fingered set of handpaws, but was eventually changed to four. And while Menagerie did initially forget this change, they still did fulfill the requested change, and threw in the five fingered set (with no claws, as it was unfinished) for free!

Feet
Feet are nice and comfy to wear, though to get a little hard to walk in after a bit, as they are somewhat sockpaw/slipper styled. No major issues otherwise.

Appearance Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to look at with regard to material quality, design, how closely it matches the concept, etc.

Hands
Claws are sewn well, though the airbrushing feels a bit more mediocre compared to the rest of the suit.
Nothing major to note here.

Feet

The feet appear to be much better in regards to airbrushing than the hands, though there is white near the bottom of them that i feel could have been airbrushed over as well.
Claws are also nicely sewn in here.

TailsGives information about any tails the costume may have.


Wear Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to wear with regard to comfort, fit, material quality, etc.

Since Shui’s tail is rather large and heavy, it is required that the tail be rather tightly belted across the body.
In addition, the hole for the tail was made to be a little too high up as the belt must be tied around my stomach for proper use.
Durability is good, especially for a dragger tail. Other than a little bit of dirt, stays relatively clean and well.

Appearance Satisfaction How satisfying this piece is to look at with regard to material quality, design, how closely it matches the concept, etc.

Very happy with the tail above all else! Other than the droopy fin problem that is presented throughout the whole of the suit, it looks very wonderful!

OverallHow satisfied the reviewer is with the overall buying experience, including their interactions with the maker and the resulting final product.


Product Satisfaction How satisfied the reviewer is with the overall look and feel of the costume in its entirety.

How was your concept art realized?

This is another issue where Menagerie happens to particularly irk me.
Instead of using the concept art provided, they’ll go and make their own for your character instead. (As linked below:)

Now this is particularly annoying for a few reasons:

1 – It feels as if they’re trying to change your design to fit their own preferences.
While I’m sure this may not be fact, I do get a little bit suspicious of this.

2 – It goes off the original design for the suit
I, personally, am a stickler for accuracy. And If I draw a fursuit reference to look a certain way, that’s generally how I want it to look. Not like someone else’s interpretation.
(I mean seriously, that first one looks like she’s covered in mud!)

How well does everything fit together and match up?

All in all, the suit is relatively alright overall. Everything seems to fit together as it should, and there are no major comfort issues when it comes to wearing everything at once.
Airbrushing does go over the seams well, and while some aspects can be lopsided (such as the head) I wouldn’t pin it on the sewing.

Overall Project Quality

I’m not very satisfied with what I received appearance-wise, but quality-wise everything seems to check out.

Purchase Process Details the interactions between the customer/reviewer and the maker of the item with regard to the buying process.

Initial Contact

Very easy, upon requesting a commission via their email they were quick to respond in less than a few days.

Maker Response Time

Very quick, especially on twitter. Their email (where we originally contacted them) could be used to be checked more often, especially when communicating with a commissioner.

Maker Professionalism

Very nice to work with, and very kind overall. Was generally understanding about most changes wanting to be made, and often did their best to communicate.

Project Completion Time

Fairly satisfied. Time taken was about as much as expected. Menagerie does not work with deadlines to my knowledge, so no estimated completion date was ever really established.

Rating

FursuitReview scores by having the reviewer answer the following question:
"Would you recommend this maker to another?"

OK!
This review has been marked with a neutral rating.
This means the reviewer MIGHT recommend Menagerie Works depending on circumstances that have been clarified in this review.


Final Comments

I wouldn’t go to MenagerieWorks for a head, but everything else is relatively good quality.
They do have a few business practices to work on, but otherwise I don’t think they are a terrible maker by any means, they just need to listen a little more and better their style. (Seriously, the droopy snout annoys me to no end)

Complicated suits aren’t their strong point, but if you’d like something affordable but simple, I would likely recommend them for that.


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